Veteran Presence Goes To Hell

 

The First Annual VP.com Dead Pool

 

(written by Bill with comments on picks by Bill, Ed, and Phil)

 

 

First, for those of you who don’t know, allow me to make very clear what’s going on here. A “dead pool” is, according to Wikipedia, “…a game of prediction which involves guessing when someone will die. A typical modern dead pool might have players pick out celebrities who they think will die within the year.” This dead pool is just that – an attempt by me, Ed, and Phil to pick athletes within the world of sports that will perish within the next calendar year. Now, we don’t necessarily WANT the people we pick to pass away; that being said, there are some selections in which one of us was overcome by hope and desire, as we all are from time to time. There was only one rule for eligibility:

 

The athlete selected by each person MUST have been an active participant in their sport at some point during the selector’s lifetime.

 

Since I am ten years younger than Ed and Phil, this puts me at a disadvantage. Fortunately, I make up for this disadvantage by having no children and a functional memory. Yay youth.

 

I now present a slightly edited version of the conversation me, Ed, and Phil had as we took our trip to hell: the first annual Veteran Presence Dead Pool.

 

1. ED: TOM BRADY

[Truly, there is no one in the world I hate more than Tom Brady.  There’s not even a close second.  And even though I know this will just make him stronger, I still have to pick him just out of hope.  I fully envision his death involving horrific amounts of bloodloss when someone bumps into Peter King as he's kneeling in front of his dream boy. Assumedly, it will be the coffee delivery boy who bumps into him.]

 

Bill: I find it hard to believe someone wouldn’t be able to get out of Peter King’s way.

 

2. PHIL: RAE CARRUTH

[The first name that actually had pop in my mind was Fred Lane. But that would negate the actual idea of picking people who WOULD die, not who were already dead. I retreated to the safety of the guy already in jail.]

 

Bill: My selection is another football player. A very intense competitor. Recently retired…

 

Ed: ROMO!!!

 

3. BILL: BILL ROMANOWSKI

[I think when Bill Romanowski dies, his chest cavity will explode and spew out undigested pills. Really it will be like the numerous Skittles commercials, except it will rain designer steroids instead of untasty candy.]

 

Phil: God - I hope I never met Andrea Kramer. Especially if she ever finds out that I was the one who started the horrible “Romo having his way with her” jokes.

 

Ed: God, do I not want to see pics of that murder scene.

 

Phil: The problem is that all the people who have illnesses that I think of are already dead. Marge Schott, Bobby Bonds…

 

Bill: Johnny Oates…

 

Phil: Exactly - I have moved onto guys who have gained a million pounds and are poor. Sadly, that has provided a bundle of names.

 

4. ED: BUSTER DOUGLAS

[Well, Phil set that on a tee for me.  C’mon, he’s three billion pounds.]

 

5. PHIL: VLADIMIR KONSTANTINOV

[I was trying to think of guys who were in wheelchairs and he fits the bill in a big way. Poor, poor limo.]

 

6. BILL: LAWRENCE TAYLOR

[He recently called modern football players a naughty word I can’t put on VP, he LOVES drugs, and he just got his own video game released – which means he has money to finance that drug habit. Yes – I identified NFL pill-popping linebackers as an extremely dangerous subset of the athlete market, much like the Braves and Georgia prep hitters. Sadly, I do not have my own book deal.]

 

7. ED: JAYSON WILLIAMS

[Nothing to add here.  Stupid weird spelling people.]

 

Just to note, Ed actually typed in this pick as “Jason Williams”, who you may know better as the crazy, pasty Grizzlies point. (He is also crazy pasty but I would just say he was wicked pasty if I was going to use a modifying adjective). Ed’s response to that? “Well, whatever. I can see Iverson taking him out for gimmick infringement.”

 

8. PHIL: LEON SPINKS

[Yeah – Buster Douglas was a million pounds. And Riddick Bowe is crazy. And Mike Tyson is well Mike Tyson. I went with an underrated disintegrating boxer. I mean the man was broke enough that he turned to wrestling. But no no – he was too scummy for the WWF. No, he was wrestling Onita for his next sammich. Of course, in the end, I am just happy I didn’t say Michael Spinks.]

 

Bill: My next pick is going to enrage Phil.

 

Phil: I want to know your justification for hating on Nick Johnson

 

Bill: No. He might be the youngest player taken in the entire draft, though.

 

Bill: Pasty, obese football player.

 

Phil: Poor J-Load…

 

9. BILL: JARED LORENZEN

[Like he is making it through two consecutive Tom Coughlin training camps. Sample size. When you add in the fact that he disappeared for the entire season last year without anyone telling anyone or being found, I am very excited about this pick. As for my focusing on linebackers; well, J-Load is linebacker-sized.]

 

Phil: Are you thinking heart attack, or are you thinking Coughlin beats him to death?

 

Ed: I am thinking suicide when he realizes he’s the only Giant QB without a hot significant other.

 

Ed: My next pick is one of my favorite players ever and a guy who will never make into the Hall of Fame.

 

Phil: Goose Gossage?

 

Ed: GAH! No, he was in poor health just a year ago, which made Darryl Stingley happy…

 

10. ED: JACK TATUM

[Sigh]

 

Phil: Of course, this next pick came up in my list of guys who gained a million pounds.

 

Ed: Jason Giambi?

 

Phil: Sadly, this was funnier when he looked like he had a full ham stuck in his gullet.

 

Ed: …Jason Giambi?

 

Bill: Jeremy Giambi?

 

Phil: This is a sport Ed doesn’t watch.

 

Bill: Aww…poor Diego…

 

11. PHIL: DIEGO MARADONA

[This was a lot funnier when he had the entire turkey leg he got from the Buenos Aires Renaissance Festival stuck in his gullet. Still, I am banking that Soccernet has one last “Maradona near death” story in it.]

 

Bill: OK – my next pick is a VP favorite who has made it to four or five WTWs and a couple of baseball previews. He’s very fast, but he’s not allowed to go very far.

 

Phil: Dave Roberts?

 

Bill: VERY close.

 

Ed: RICKEY~!?

 

Phil: Juan Pierre?

 

Ed: OTIS!!!

 

12. BILL: OTIS NIXON

[With all the Braves injuries, there is a slim chance that they might call Nixon out of retirement to man an outfield corner. This would only make my pick even better.]

 

Ed: Well, it has to be his year sometime...

 

Phil: Janikowski?

 

Ed: Aww…poor Seabass. He’s had the disease for 15 years now…

 

13. ED: MAGIC JOHNSON

[Yeah-yeah.  Boo yourselves.  Like you wouldn’t have picked him.]

 

Phil: This one will really piss off Ed on several levels.

 

Bill: Randy Moss?

 

Ed: Larry Bowa?

 

Phil: He has the added benefit of having run afoul of the law and already being shot. God bless Oakland.

 

Ed: Aww

 

14. PHIL: BARRETT ROBBINS

[… Hello??? I am just lucky he didn’t die before I picked him. Poor poor Ed.]

 

Ed: I hate myself for picking the wrong Raider.

 

Bill: OK – I got it. My pick is an insane midget prick.

 

Ed: Bret Boone?

 

Bill: Go further North. Awful hair.

 

Ed: Bret Boone?

 

Ed: Doug Flutie?

 

Bill: That is, pending his appeal to join the senior’s league…

 

15. BILL: THEO FLEURY

[Failed rehabilitation stints. Multiple articles denying addiction. Didn’t sober up for a multi-million dollar contract; what makes you think he’s going to for nothing?]

 

Ed: Ooh, my pick? Since I could probably call Denny McClain, I will take the poor man’s Denny McClain.

 

Ed: Fat pitcher, did jail time, had one great season…

 

Bill: David Wells?

 

Ed: And a whole lot of drugs...

 

16. ED: LAMAR HOYT

[Fat.  In and out of jail.  Lots of drugs.  Nice pick.]

 

Phil: You can draft McClain if you want to.

 

Ed: Well, there’s my next pick then.

 

Phil: My next pick is also crazy. No longer a member of the Minnesota Vikings – if he was, I would’ve chosen him in the first round.

 

Ed: Poor Onterrio.

 

Phil: Recently employed but not by the NFL…

 

17. PHIL: DIMITRIOUS UNDERWOOD

[No, I did not intend on going on a bipolar disorder run.]

 

Bill: OK – this pick might not fly but I am crossing my fingers…

 

18. BILL: MINNIE MINOSO

[Oh, you forgot – Minoso played in every decade – including a minor league game in the nineties. I am bending the rules and loving it.]

 

Phil: Baseball-reference lists his last game as being in 1980 – and his page is complete with the out-of-date “Baseball needs DC NOW!” sponsorship. But he did play that one game in the 90s – so I will let that go.

 

Ed: OK – since I took the fake Denny McLain…

 

19: ED: DENNY MCLAIN

[Ayup]

 

Phil: My next pick is both fat and in jail. I benefit doubly.

 

Ed: Nate Newton!

 

20. PHIL: NATE NEWTON

[I was about to write, “The fact that he played for the Cowboys also somewhat helps my hopes that he kicks it.”]

 

Bill: My next pick is in the vein of Minnie Minoso. I hope the NHL lockout makes him kick it too…

 

21. BILL: GORDIE HOWE

[Sure, he will live till he is 100. But he is already like 98. I am really hoping he jumps off a bridge to protest the hockey lockout or something.]

 

Ed: Aww, the youth of Canada frowns upon you…

 

Bill: But I don’t even like hardcore music.

 

Ed: OK – because he wants to outdo Reggie White at everything…

 

Bill: Peter King??

 

Phil: Kevin Greene???

 

Ed: No – he will be too traumatized after killing Brady.

 

22. ED: BRUCE SMITH

[Oh like he hasn’t thought of it. He probably already has the coins pressed and everything.]

 

Phil: When he gets put in the coffin, does that count as a full sack?

 

Phil: OK – I wanted to get away from the football players for a while, but I couldn’t think of anyone good – until Ed’s pee break inspired me.

 

Bill: HEY! Gary Miller never played sports!

 

Phil: So I started to think of people I make fun of in the WTW and who have already considerably shortened their life span and realized there was only one person I could take…

 

23. PHIL: ALONZO MOURNING

[I just figured I would feel less guilty about Zo dying than Sean Elliott.]

 

Bill: OK. I am going out on a limb here. This guy is rambunctious, heroic, handsome, rustic, pasty…

 

Ed: KEVIN MILLAR!!!

 

Bill: God no.

 

24. BILL: BRETT FAVRE

[This is like when you pick somebody from your favorite team on your fantasy team in the hopes that they’ll do well and make both the teams better. It never works out. Ever.]

 

Ed: I need to pick another NBA guy.

 

25. ED: DAVID THOMPSON

[Phil tells me he should rent The David Thompson Story for me.  I reply with, “You mean, ‘Scarface’?”]

 

Phil: SKY WALKER!

 

Phil: OK – like Bill’s pick, my guy is a football player. Heroic, pasty, handsome I guess..

 

Bill: Ken O’Brien?

 

Phil: Has a hole in his heart…

 

26. PHIL: TEDY BRUSCHI

[Does this selection mean I let the terrorists win?]

 

Bill: Wait – Tedy Bruschi is Latino, Phil. He is as pasty as I am not pasty.

 

27. BILL: JOSE CANSECO

[Too handsome to sleep with Madonna.]

 

28. ED: KIRBY PUCKETT

[Fat?  Check.  Physcial malaise?  Check.  Recently humiliated?  Check.]

 

29: PHIL: GREG LOUGANIS

[I am not a creative man. Ed's Magic Johnson pick was too good to not piggyback upon. But I had to think outside of the realm of team sports. So Olympics here we come. Greg Louganis works pretty nifty. Worst case scenario: one of the countless homophobes in Washington will put a hit out on him.]

 

Ed: Awww…that is so Red State.

 

30. BILL: TODD MARINOVICH

[Oh yeah. Totally selected just to piss Ed off, in particular because it would piss off Ed the most that he didn’t draft him himself.]

 

31. ED: DAVE DRAVECKY

[Dave Dravecky v. the Drummer from Def Leppard:: the Battle of God v. Satan]

 

Who They Were When they Had Two Arms:

 

Dravecky: a league average at best pitcher for the Giants and Padres best known for loving him some God; topped out at making $750K a year

 

DfDL:  a drummer for one of the biggest young rock bands of the early-80s. Sex and drugs and rock and roll and lots and lots of record company cash

 

Advantage: Beezelbub

 

How they lost their Arms

 

Dravecky:  Cancer and then the arm snapping like a twig while throwing a baseball, incident caught on tape so all the vampires can turn up the sound to hear the snap

 

DfDL:  Drunken car crash.  Viva la rock!

 

Advantage:  Mephisto


Who They Became After They Lost A Wing:

Dravecky: Motivational Christian speaker, hanging out with the Pat Robertson and drinking lots of milk – right handed

 

DfDL:  Learned to drum with one arm and his feet.  Got back with Def Leppard.  Def Leppard then proceeded to suck, but everyone made mad cash, bringing in lots more sex, drugs and rock & roll

 

Advantage:  Lucifer

 

How they will die

 

Dravecky: While peeping out of his hotel room for the morning paper at a big time Christian convention he sees Brenda Warner in her morning face and turns to stone

 

DfDL:  While stuck on the road in some dismal hotel room – oddly, the same hotel room that former big league star Dave Dravecky was found dead in – the DfDL is found in a pool of vomit, OD’ing from massive amounts of every drug he could find in the backwater Hicksville, with strung out strippers staring at his corpse.

 

Advantage:  Meh.  It all evens out in the end, doesn’t it?]

 

Phil: I am gonna pick the only person I had left over from my list yesterday, since I really need to pick at least one Redskin.

 

Phil: And since THE BEAST told me to type in his name, and THE BEAST told me to select him, and THE BEAST enjoys the really really ugly…

 

32. PHIL: DEXTER MANLEY

[I really might have to send money to Real Sports to get a copy of that episode. God was that the greatest thing ever. Okay – 2nd behind the girl who stripped and ran track.]

 

Bill: OK – my pick is a boxer. No sight, no memory, no nothin’.

 

33. BILL: GERALD MCCLELLAN

[Fortuitously seen in the Boston Globe right before the draft here.]

 

Phil: I have no clue who that is.

 

Ed: OK. I’ve neglected football. New York player, 15 minutes of fame – now for him and his family.

 

Phil: Kevin Maas. Shane Spencer.

 

Bill: Robinson Cano.

 

Ed: FOOTball.

 

Phil: Eli Manning.

 

Bill: Timo Perez isn’t related to Melido or Pascual, is he?

 

Phil: He said FOOTBALL.

 

Ed: Foot-ball.

 

Ed: Did some fixed fighting…

 

Phil: Jarrod Bunch!

 

34. ED: MARK GASTINEAU

[Yeah-yeah.  Think of who he’s slept with.]

 

Phil: Aww…he had more than 15 minutes of fame…

 

Ed: Maybe in New York. Not in my red state.

 

Phil: OK – I have no clue who to pick next so I resort to an old standby. I was reminded of him by the Michael Jackson trial.

 

Ed: OJ?

 

Phil: Affiliated with OJ…

 

Bill: Al Cowlings? Jack Kemp?

 

Phil: Liked a lot of drugs…

 

Ed: Marcus Allen?

 

Phil: Played baseball.

 

Ed: Keith Hernandez? Dave Parker?

 

Phil: I would be disappointing Whitey Herzog and Tommy Lasorda.

 

Bill: Willie McGee?

 

Ed: Lonnie Smith?

 

Phil: Had power…

 

Bill: Jack Clark?

 

Phil: Black. Known for his Dodger days the most.

 

Bill: Jack Black? I don’t think you can choose Omar Epps, Phil…

 

Ed: Pedro Guerrero?

 

35. PHIL: PEDRO GUERRERO

[If you want crazed websites: Google Pedro Guerrero and OJ Simpson.]

 

Bill: Well then, I will take Darryl.

 

Phil: Aww, Ed will look down on that pick for being simple.

 

Bill: Like how I look down on Ohio for being simple?

 

Ed: Aww

 

36. BILL: DARRYL STRAWBERRY

[Oh yeah. Easy pick.]

 

Ed: OK. Drunk basketball player. Pretty famous.

 

Phil: Oh yeah – that narrows it down.

 

Phil: Bill Walton?

 

Ed: Known for his hair. Hangs out at Pearl Jam shows with Gammons.

 

Phil: Bill Walton.

 

Ed: Tattoos and piercings

 

Phil: Mike Dunleavy, Jr.?

 

37. ED: DENNIS RODMAN

[Like that was a tough call.]

 

Phil: OK – I was inspired for this pick by the US Open.

 

Bill: Michael Chang isn’t dying, is he?

 

Phil: No – the OTHER US Open.

 

Bill: David Duval!!!

 

Phil: No – although I shoulda now that I think about it. I went instead for the guy with the debilitating illness who needs Morgan Freeman to cart him around.

 

38. PHIL: CASEY MARTIN

[In hindsight, I realized that when in doubt my subconscious thought of people with some sort of leg aliment.]

 

Bill: OK – my pick is another crazy NBA player. Has been kicked off of pretty much every team he was ever on. Disappears on a regular basis.

 

Phil: Bison Dele? Oof – he is dead anyway.

 

39. BILL: JR RIDER

[There are like 13 players named JR Rider or something like in the NBA so I had to make sure I chose the right one. Choosing AC Green is passé at this point.]

 

Ed: OK – for my only hockey player – since I can name about five hockey players…

 

Phil: It has to be Mario – right? He had the cancer, right?

 

Ed: Nope…

 

Ed: I was going to go with the Bobblehead – Eric Lindros. I mean, he’d sneeze and his head would bust open. But…

 

Phil: SWERVE!

 

Ed: The one most likely to not die of natural causes…

 

Phil: Tie Domi?

 

Ed: Unless ODing on crank and getting sliced up in a bar fight are natural causes…

 

Bill: Joe Thornton?

 

Ed: I am old-school, Bill.

 

Phil: Who else would Ed even know? Dale Hunter?

 

40. ED: BOB PROBERT

[You know he’s going to get stabbed in a bar somewhere. And now I have my hockey pick out of the way.]

 

Phil: OK. As much as I would love to pick Chico Lind because going around pantsless still makes me giggle uncontrollably, I don’t know how conducive that is to dying. So back to baseball.

 

Phil: I don’t have a ton of dirtbag drug users yet. And he was a Yankee for a little while.

 

Bill: Dwight?

 

Phil: Since unlike the Red Sox – my favorite team employs drug addicts.

 

Bill: Ooh – A LOOGY!

 

41. PHIL: STEVE HOWE

[The only man who had a doctor’s permission to take cocaine. The fact that he doesn’t have a sponsor of his baseball-reference page is amazing. Not that I want to sponsor it – I am just surprised no one creative has done it yet.]

 

Bill: OK – my pick has played on two continents.

 

42. BILL: KAZUHIRO SASAKI

[Alcoholic. Family problems. Very sketchy lifestyle. Disappeared from his team with little notice. Recently remarried to a television star but still.]

 

Ed: OK. My pick is an author who played for the Yankees.

 

43. ED: JIM BOUTON

[Old.  Bad health.  Just barely qualifies for me.  Oh yeah.]

 

44. PHIL: MUHAMMED ALI

[I figure he has to stop shaking at some point.]

 

Bill: That is just cold blooded. I am gonna go with a man who gave up $13 million for nothing. He has many children and maybe even more DUIs.

 

45. BILL: SHAUN KEMP

[In his defense, he’d rather bust a nut than bust a cap which might help him. And yes – I got the idea to pick him when I mentioned Jack Kemp a few picks ago.]

 

Ed: CRAP! How did I forget Shaun Kemp?

 

Phil: Cause you are old and you hate the NBA.

 

Bill: Just throwing it out there, Ed – ROCKET ISMAIL!

 

Ed: Dick.

 

Phil: Jeff Hostetler. Jerry Rice. Charles Woodson.

 

Ed: No – that would be wishing. OK – this guy is sorta renowned for all the wrong reasons. Shortstop.

 

Phil: Omar Vizquel?

 

Bill: Phil Rizzutto?

 

Ed: Aww…Bill thinks I am ancient.

 

Phil: Pee Wee Reese?

 

Ed: Connected to Mike Torrez, but ISN’T Bucky Dent.

 

Phil: TINKER!

 

Bill: OK – Phil wins.

 

Ed: Here’s the giveaway. BEANED by Mike Torrez.

 

Bill: Rex Chapman!

 

Phil: The basketball player??

 

Bill: Oof – I meant the guy who got beaned in the 20s. Er – Ray Chapman.

 

Phil: Tony Conigliaro?

 

46. ED: DICKIE THON

[Oh, it is a letdown after Tinker and Rex Chapman.]

 

Phil: (Note: this is a direct quote) God – Red Champman is so much funnier

 

Phil: OK – I wanted to pick Mark Belanger but he died. This fulfills my need to pick an earlier Oriole.

 

47. PHIL: BOOG POWELL

[I am assuming he will either have a heart attack or choke to death on his own BBQ.]

 

Bill: My next pick is a recent player. Had a lot of discussion about him in the baseball preview despite not being an active major leaguer.

 

Phil: Albert Belle?

 

Bill: Not as angry and fatter.

 

Ed: Fernando Valenzuela?

 

Bill: Ooh – close. But we didn’t talk about Valenzuela in the preview. And he’s a reliever.

 

Phil: Urbina’s mom?

 

Bill: VERY close. He may have eaten Urbina’s mom.

 

Phil: Jesse Orosco? Wilson Alvarez?

 

Ed: Antonio Alfonseca?

 

Bill: No – but he may end up eating Alfonseca’s extra fingers at some point.

 

48. BILL: RICH GARCES

[The big board for him goes heart attack, kidnapping, and accidental harpooning.]

 

Ed: OK – I already named this guy earlier. Crippled football player.

 

49. ED: DARRYL STINGLEY

[Unless St. Brady brings him back to life, of course.]

 

Phil: When in doubt, think crazy – and NBA.

 

Bill: Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf?

 

Phil: That would’ve been better – but the rejection on “Dream Job” might be too much to take. Sadly I cannot pick Stuart Scott.

 

Ed: Kit Hoover?

 

50. PHIL: DARRYL DAWKINS

[I now realize that Gerald Wilkens would have worked because a crazed, disappointed over no HOF Nique might have stabbed him….]

 

51. BILL: GHEORGE WEAH

[He is trying to gain power in an African country. That means he will be the victim of a coup. It is inevitable.]

 

Ed: George Weah? Wasn’t he Norm on “Cheers”?

 

Ed: OK – since no one’s picked a race car driver and no Petty’s have been killed in a while…

 

52. ED: KYLE PETTY

[Well, he looks like death warmed over anyway.]

 

Phil: Aww.... and it will because Richard offs him for ruining the family name, not because he hits turn 4 at Daytona. OK – let me get my notebook.

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